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boggs1018
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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 20:00 |
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Elisabeth,
I can relate to getting so excited about taking walks again. My husband and I have been walking in the evenings lately--something I haven't been able to do since I started the MP over a year ago. Recently I even cleaned my house on my own for a family reunion! Woohoo! I sure will miss the help from my family when they see I can do it on my own again!
Yay for small victories!
Juli
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stoneyhill
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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 23:52 |
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expate wrote: Markt9452 wrote: Great - I have inadvertantly turned this into a thread about knitting... 
...and I didn't even get to use my "if the shoe fits" line yet...
You've got to let us finish knitting the socks before you can see if the shoe fits.
dette
Wifey is a fiber artist. I call her a "Weaver", "Knitter" and "Spinster". She can turn out a pair of socks from the ball of fleece that comes off the sheep.
Anyway, a few years ago at an auction I bought this funny looking machine they called a "Sock Knitting Machine". $35.00, I paid and now I see that they go for like $400.00 on the internet.
Wifey didn't want it because she is a purist and this gizmo will turn out a pair of socks in like 45 minutes. One crank on the handle turns out a row all around.
The guy that invented this machine didn't have time to go out with girls. It's got 2 sets of needles that go either up and down or in and out like the 'Wave' at the ball park. They go up and down and in and out through each other, picking up loops and pulling them down and then going up, whilst a latch hook drops one thread and picks up another. It's fun to watch.
It's like turning the handle on a sausage grinder except that a sock comes out the bottom instead of sausage.
I studied the booklet and practiced and even learned to turn the heel and close the toe but I have some kind of problem with the tensions or something because after I turn the heel and start toward the toe, one of the needles will drop a stitch and it makes a run like in a pair of nylons.
Then I get to pull it all out and start over.
I will get it eventually and then start to sell "Hand Knitted Wool Socks" at the craft shows that Wifey goes to.
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Joyful
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 03:45 |
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Ah, Stoney, you bring to mind Wallace and Gromit and the episode called A Close Shave! 
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Markt9452
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:06 |
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Stoney - Are you wearing those lanolin laden sheep socks? Cause that could be baa baa baaaaaddd....
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expate
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 11:34 |
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Tell me about lanolin. It causes me grief. Is there some micro level scoop on it, or is it just a common allergen?
Odette
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Markt9452
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 12:49 |
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Lanoline is a precursor of a steroid hormone [1a,25(OH)2D3] 
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expate
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 13:08 |
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Oh nooooo! I just got a new wool hat:
(http://www.villagehatshop.com/betmar_beadazzled_downbrim_hat.html).
It doesn't have an interior/sweatband so that the wool is right on my skin. Very uncomfortable. But it is beautiful and not nearly as uncomfortable as stilettos. 
I guess I'll have to fix it myself.
 dette
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Deb Grabetz
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 14:21 |
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Odette,
I have never been able to stand wool against my skin.....yikes!! Your post had me curious too about lanolin so I looked up some info on WIKI and found this...Interesting! I have used Oil of Olay products consistently over the last few years. Discontinued once I started the MP.
The name given to the product 'Oil of Olay' is derived from the word "lanolin," a key ingredient, which was chosen by the inventor, Graham Wulff.[2]
Using cosmetic products which contain impure lanolin can result in an allergic reaction in some people.
Lanolin is often used as a raw material for producing *vitamin D3.
*Cholecalciferol is a form of Vitamin D, also called vitamin D3. It is structurally similar to steroids such as testosterone, cholesterol, and cortisol (though vitamin D3 itself is a secosteroid).
D3 ([highlight= #ffff88]cholecalciferol) is a chemical added to food as a vitamin D supplement.
I hope that I have all of this D3 reported correctly!
Deb
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eClaire
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 14:30 |
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This is all very interesting. While I avoid lanolin products and am allergic to wool, I didn't start avoiding lanolin products until I bought a coat that had a lambs wool collar that was so soft that it did not make my skin itch. A baby could have laid comfortably on it. At any rate, after wearing the coat for about 15 minutes I would become extremely congested. This convinced me that lanolin was probably the offending substance and so at that time I decided to avoid skin care products with lanolin.
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boggs1018
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 14:36 |
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Thanks, Deb, for the info on lanolin. I too am an Oil of Olay user on my face. Unfortunately that's where my sarc is, so I will discontinue it. I don't notice an allergic reaction, but it can't be good for my sarc if it has D3 in it. Yikes!
Juli
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stoneyhill
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 17:17 |
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Markt9452 wrote: Lanoline is a precursor of a steroid hormone [1a,25(OH)2D3]
I only have one pair of wool socks that Wifey only makes me wear on special occasions.
Otherwise, I thought that 25D was the precursor to the steroid hormone 1,25D.
Unless you say that the lanolin is a direct precursor to 1,25D, in which case, it would be essentially fall into the same category as 25D. Which in my weak understanding is what they call 'D3')
I don't know, just askin'
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stoneyhill
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 18:24 |
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Wifey and I were discussing the wool issue over lunch.
She tells me that man and sheep have been inextricably entwined since the beginning of recorded history. The nomadic tribes of pre-recorded history have been wearing and living (felted huts) in wool for as far back as anyone can remember. The Arabs even today, in that blistering heat and burning sun, wear wool to protect them from it.
I understand that Th1 disease got a surge when man invented the bikini (which essentially got us out from under all our felted hats and longhandled underwear) and the Norwegian Bachelor Farmers never took their long handles off.
The surge got augmented when .gov mandated the supplementation of milk with Vit D.
All of this happened in the last 60 years or so.
My question becomes.......Why, in all our previous history, have we been wrapped up in our woolens and still survived as a species?
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Deb Grabetz
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 19:57 |
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Hi stoneyhill,
That's a good question-- we may need to form a group full of MP historians to work on this one! Cotton dates back thousands of years B.C. so there were other fabrics worn. My guess would be linen, muslin and silk, etc have been around for a very long time also!
"Scientists and historians have found shreds of cloth or written reference to cotton dating back at least seven-thousand years. Evidence of the use of cotton in the form of thread has been found in Pakistan, dating to about 6,000 B.P., although it is not clear whether the thread derived from cultivation or from wild cotton. The oldest discovery was made in a Mexican cave, where scientists unearthed bits and pieces of cotton bolls and cloth. Archaeologists have also found cloth fragments in the Indus Valley of India (Pakistan) dating about 3000 B.C. "
Silk fabric was first developed in ancient China, possibly as early as 6000 BC and definitely by 3000 BC. Legend gives credit to a Chinese empress, Xi Ling-Shi (Hsi-Ling-Shih, Lei-Tus).
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Markt9452
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 20:28 |
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man and sheep have been inextricably entwined since the beginning of recorded history.
The recorded history of mankind seems to involve perpetual warfare, slavery, epidemics of disease and the almost complete devastation of our natural environment including most of our forests, fish stocks etc.... among other things...
Maybe we are on to something here...
Sheep farming is mankinds oldest organized industry. Domesticated 10,000 years ago in Asia - however the spinning of the sheep wool only goes back to 3500 BC.
Previous to that the fleece was used as a kind of tunic.
The history of central Asia from 3500 until now is particularly interesting in terms of violance and warfare.
There have been many violant events associated with sheep farming including...
The highland clearance, US Range Wars, English "enclosing of the commons"
Also the sheep we have now aren't like the sheep of yesterday - They have more wool now and less hair than they did before. They also have smaller brains.
Did the domestication and subsequent "spinning of sheep wool starting around 3500 BC" have a significant affect on human history? - You betcha...
Just my two cents...
Trade those sheep in for some Alpacas - they are D free!!
One more thing - The neolithic period that Dr. Marshall has spoken about in some posts started around 10,000 BC
There is so much more to this - but it's way to controversial to even get into.
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stoneyhill
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 20:46 |
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There is lots to this that I don't know.
But........
I did get a call back from someone from a supplement company. Their ad had made it sound like they directly extracted the vitamin D from lanolin and I decided I better check with them as to what they meant.
They said that what happens is they extract the lanolin from the sheep and then they go through the various chemical conversion processes mentioned above to produce 7-dehydrocholesterol, which they then irradiate to make vitamin D.
So, it does not sound like there is a significant amount of vitamin D in the lanolin -- some of the ads for natural products like to leave out all the chemical processing information and irradiating and make it sound like they simple extract the vitamin D from the lanolin.
There may be a very small amount of vitamin D in the lanolin as in any animal fat, as I mentioned above, but only the very most sensitive would find it a problem, IMO. And in that case, I think they would be so sensitive they would be unable to consume any animal fat due to vitamin D content.
Personally, I am not aware of anyone who is that sensitive, but there might be some who are. Also, if they were that extremely sensitive, I doubt that the zinc oxide would protect them enough in the sun in any case and so probably would not be particularly helpful to them anyway. But if they wanted to use it, they could try one of the other zinc oxide products, like the one I mentioned above or found in the sunscreen overview.
Joyce Waterhouse
Which I got from
http://tinyurl.com/47cj6p
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Markt9452
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 00:02 |
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Your right Stoney - It's pretty complicated stuff. I can't figure out how much 7-dehydrocholesterol is in the Lanolin.
Ya gotta admit though - those Alpacas are a lot cuter than the sheep...
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 00:11 |
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...as long as I can continue to wear cashmire....
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Deb Grabetz
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 10:47 |
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Mark,
You are so right these Alpacas, are much easier to *warm up* to!!! Deb
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Freddie Ash
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:09 |
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HI ALL
This is Fred in WV. My son has 2 Alpacas. But that is not why I am posting here today. Since we are talking about Lanolin, and it being loctions, I think it would be good to tell you all what I read in the last few months. It is about Glycerin being in the lotion. I have had some high glucose readings and have been watching it.
The article said we could get false high reading if we do not wash our fingers before we do a finger stick to check the glucose reading if we use hand lotion with the Glycerin in it and it is still on your finger. This might help some one that is having problems and can not figure out what is giving them the high glucose reading.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in Sarcoidosis
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Deb Grabetz
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 12:49 |
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Now, I may be getting in way over my head here but will try to explain this the best that I am able based on my research.
Recently I went back to my eye doctors for a re-testing of my visual field, specific to my left eye. I had this tested in 2004 (before my sarc dx). In 2004 the upper left and right quadrants, along with a partial (approx 40%) of the lower left quadrant were affected. I lost this vision back in 1990 when I flared with what I now realize was neurosarc.
My recent testing showed a complete clearing of the lower left quadrant! No surprise as I'm able to see out of this eye much clearer in the last six months. Now, the funny thing is my opthamologist has been telling me this is a pit in my optic nerve that will never change--and he continues to tell me this--even though my test came back improved! I am in no way trying to criticize this eye doc but why do they get so stuck in the mud??? I have not been able to see out of this eye, with no change for 18 years!!! Even without a test, common sense tells me that this eye has improved, a neuro improvement also possibly-- and it has only happened since I have been on the MP--!!
It seems also that I have read that a true pit in the optic nerve only affects two of the four quadrants. So, this would not even have been a sensible dx to begin with, since three of my four quadrants came back affected. But what do I know????!
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