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Posted: Tue Nov 24th, 2009 01:32 |
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Yes!
Hypersensitivity's dark face: irritability. 
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Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2010 18:02 |
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Update on Money Penny (Tigger is so healthy, he needs no comments).
April 15, started reducing Olmesartan.
May first, Olmesartan was stopped.
This was done because of an up coming vacation of several weeks and the cats would be left with a relative. Asking this person to add the appropriate amount of O was going to be too complicated. This also was viewed as an opportunity to see if:
1) there was any pre-MP improvement.
2) if there was a change in the way Money Penny reacted on and off the O.
May 20, Money's blood sugar was tested, and to our relief, it was still down (139).
May 23, noticed that Money had not been in a snit, attacking Tigger for ~ a week. It was pointed out by my significant other that I was probably spending so much time out working on the greenhouse getting ready for our trip that I just hadn't been around to see it.
Gone 5-28 to 6-19. So I have had ~ 3 weeks to observe Money Penny since back and she definitely is NOT irritable. No attacks on Tigger at all.
Money still can not jump up on a chair, but she seems to be a little more capable of jumping up using a half-way box than before we left for vacation.
Comparing to pre-MP is difficult as there was the period of fairly rapid down hill slide due to the high blood sugar, and the Glipizide turned that around, so she is both recovering from TH1 (I hope) and recovering from the damage the high blood sugar did, which may have been bad for a few years prior to the more obvious rapid decline.
I will start Olmesartan again in a few weeks when the weather cools down, as the cats are just not eating very much at all from being too warm, and I can't be sure Money would get an effective dosing rate. This eating slow down may mean that each summer in the next couple of years I may have to take them off Olmesartan. We will eventually get a whole house evaporative cooler installed, so that may change.
Cynthia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 12:46 |
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Thanks for posting on Money Penny, I had been wondering how she was doing. 
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Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 05:26 |
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Cat on MP:
Money Penny - restarted MP August 15, 2010, 4 months after stopping Beni, which was after 8 months on Beni. No change in behavior yet, 2 + weeks. She has for some time tho been limping a bit when she first gets up and walks, just like me. She has continued to be very vocal to a fault. Am working on discouraging quite so much of it. Cats think that anything they want can be had from a human just by yowling at the top of their lungs.
Tigger- yesterday we had to take him to the vet to be put to sleep. He will be sorely missed. Cats tend to favor one person more than the other, and Tigger was my baby. Money Penny has always had a soft part in her heart for Russ.
Five to 6 weeks ago my super healthy Tigger stopped eating. Not so obvious as the cats shared the same food bowls. Noting weight loss and reclusiveness, we took him to the vet to find he had a golf ball sized something on or near a kidney. For the next month Tigger was fed 4 times a day with feeding tubes, just to make sure that the mass was indeed cancer and not an enlarged lymph node. or benign and unrelated to his not feeling well. Long shot I know, but as we know, being on MP makes for unpredictable things relative to every day medicine. He regained some weight and seemed a little better, but eventually started to slide, so we made the decision at the point he started to show distress. He has been coughing/spitting up for a few years, similarly as during this illness, and I have always thought it was more than just hair balls or grass. I think this is related, and would suggest that he has had a tumor for some time.
Getting up at 5 am to slowly feed a cat with feeding tubes results in a certain amount of loss of sleep. And to have Money Penny come into the bedroom at 1, 3, and 8 am to yowl at the top of her lungs demanding attention really made me sympathetic to those on the MP who have had sleep deprivation problems. Money has been getting lessons in keeping quite and is doing much better now.
Cynthia
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Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 06:39 |
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Cynthia, I'm so sorry you've lost your Tigger. It's such a painful decision to have to make, and then the loss on top of it.
Pray tell, how do you give a cat lessons on how to stop yowling? Pretzel will sit and do that sometimes, until she sees me watching her, and then she lets out a very normal meow---looking sort of sheepish.
Best to you, and wishes for some good sleep.
Jan
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Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 07:18 |
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| You have a PM. Don't want the SPCA after me. Cynthia
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Posted: Sat Sep 4th, 2010 10:19 |
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So sorry to read about Tigger, Cynthia. It is a wrench when we do the kindest thing for our poorly furry friends.
Morag x
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Posted: Sun Sep 5th, 2010 00:25 |
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| Cynthia, I sent you an email. ---Jan
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Posted: Sat Dec 25th, 2010 02:22 |
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Hi Cynthia, 
How's MoneyPenny doing?
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Posted: Wed Jan 5th, 2011 06:42 |
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| She is beset by diabetes again. We are fighting to get her sugar down and her weight up, and I don't know how successful we are going to be. At times I think we are making progress, and other times when I see her symptoms getting worse. Blood sugar isn't showing a trend yet, just erratic readings. There are a great many things that need saying, but this isn't the time yet. Maybe in another month if we finally get on top of things. Cynthia
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Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 06:51 |
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This will likely be my last entry in this thread. Money Penny died this morning at about the age of 17 years. Her diabetes was a problem, but I don't think it was the only problem, as we were able to keep the sugar level under 250, tho it was very erratic. Initially I was very disturbed that Money lost her appetite very much like Tigger had, but I understand from reading that most things that go wrong with cats causes them to lose their appetites. I was feeding Money much like I did for Tigger, but on the same feeding schedule where Tigger had actually gained weight, Money continued to lose weight.
I think I will never know if giving olmesartan to our cats was part of the complications we had, or had no affect at all, but it is something to think about.
Cynthia
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Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 09:17 |
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I am so sorry to read of the loss of another furry friend. 
Perhaps you will give in and obtain a new pet when the time is right. But for now, I suppose you are just sad. I know I would be.
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Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 18:10 |
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| Watching loved pets go down hill is really hard, and I don't really ever want to go thru that again. But it just reflects what happens to people all over the world and for all time, and that is what I really can't get out of my mind. That is what really makes me sad, much more than the loss of my pets. It is such an eye opener. The young and middle aged are so protected from the reality of what everyone faces at some point. The concept of growing old gracefully is rubbish and a fairy tail. I hope this will be a really different world after the MP gains acceptance. C
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Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 23:58 |
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I am sorry for your loss Cynthia.
As you stated: "I think I will never know if giving olmesartan to our cats was part of the complications we had, or had no affect at all, but it is something to think about".
I am thinking. Benicar and abx does appear to be helping my cat. I so much appreciate you being a "Trend Setter" for me and my pets.
You and Money Penny have given me the courage to try to extend the lives, and the quality of lives for some of my animals. 3 so far, and seems to be working.
4 months ago, I was headed for the vet to put my sick, severely overweight, cat to sleep for good when I started following your experiences. Now 4 months later my cat, "WAS", is not completely well, but is playing, normal size, and happy thanks to you and Money Penny.
Thank you and Money Penny, and Tigger, so very much, Taryn
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